what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. Since Aries is ruled by Mars, there's a . "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Do you see what I mean. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. I, always, have people want to tell me that Nessus is not always abuse. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. Having a planet you have on your 7th house falling on their 1st house and a planet in your 1st house falling on their 7th house and vice-versa which would create an opposite between the two planets in the synastry chart. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. Thanks :), DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. Your email address will not be published. One person is kind of riding the other one in this. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. Hardly. Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! The same with nessus conjunct ASC? You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. As such, I would be careful and watchful. Thank you =). What do you think? I never heard of these asteroids, especially being linked to abusers and victims. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. Does that fit and I applaud your willingness to face yourself. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. You interpret things based off of your own view. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 Thank you so much, Love. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. for example a 1.46.. or 2? Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Hi Ami, Ive been quietly enjoying your site for years now and am finally reaching out as Im intrigued by your work on nessus/deja and recently entered into a relationship with someone (not romantic) who I discovered has nessus and mars conj my nn exact. If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. This question would need me to see the whole chart because what I do is put it all together and come out with a practical answer. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. Hi Ami. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. That would be my guess. What if a man has Dejanira conjunct a womans Sun? His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. Lovely, Lo! If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Also, there is no abuse either way. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? Welcome, Ariel and great questions. Do you have any advice for me? To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). Will be keeping my wits about me. Is there anything I can do to help her? His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. crap. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. You do not have to do their chart. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Come and post the charts. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. YOU are the most important person to me. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). Ami, hello. . If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. My Pluto opposite his Moon. They made my day, Jeanie. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. Partners switch roles? Who would bring who abuse? How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! How does that play out? I came across your blog post and so went through my charts looking for couple friends and this one came up as having the conjunction. Oh dear, I am soooooo freaked out!!!!!!! . It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Love, He was considered irresistible. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. All this is square my Moon. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. Is this a synastry, Ariel? Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. What would you say about moon conjunct pluto in a composite chart. Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Venus conj Chirondoes love seem to bring pain? To learn more about the past life, look at the aspect, the houses in which the planets sit, and the signs. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. You both feel admiration for each other. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. That doesnt mean youve never been married. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. Please post the charts. In my opinion, it will play out. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. Well, we have a Sun (me) trine Pluto and a Pluto (me) conjunct his sun, Thank you so much for the reply and sorry for the late reply, Ive just seen it xx My moon is in Sagittarius and his in cancer, so that always worries me , He has pluto at 27 Virgo with my sun at 11 Virgo. "I want to welcome you to my website. Their capacity for intimacy and shared desire to melt into the fires of transformation is nothing short of total risk, which each are compelled to take- no questions asked. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. Chiron conjunct sun. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. Thank you Ivs. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. This isn't always a bad thing, however. You truly made my day! I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. It is very, very powerful. the Moons will make for best friends. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. Thank you for your words. Lovely and very filled with passion! My main point is reflection. 5. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. as well as to the signs and houses. Good afternoon, thank you for this article It is not as intense as the conjunction but very intense, nonetheless. How do we honor Lilith in our lives? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. I hear your concern. . Or can both apply? What about this aspects? It is not pretty at all. I am prone to being attacked in this way. Moon/Pluto as a conjunction is not dark , per se. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. Eros represents what turns us on. Lilith conjunct Ascendant Knowing more. lol. Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. . In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. I am worried about being the abuser here. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. I do charts for the people who want them. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. what would result from this? Thank you for your comment. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! Is it relevant? Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Thank you, Lo and Welcome The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. Your email address will not be published. Not eros. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. That is most certainly not the truth. Thanks you, Jos. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. orb). OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. That`s very interesting information. You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I mean, a persons life is complicated. Thats weird. I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. The chart never lies, my Friend. It is valued! Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Uranus/Mars in synastry can be kinky. Your words mean a lot to me! In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . It always starts this way. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. . As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. Not sure which one id prefer. You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. I am not surprised this happened to you. Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT I dont want to assume that having Nessus conj BML means Im going to be abusive in sexual relationships.